2010年4月15日星期四

If I was in charge of 'Heroes'



The first season of 'Heroes' was a masterpiece of storytelling and character development. Then came the subsequent seasons, which have lost all grasp of 'common' sense. Lots of the story involved in these seasons require viewers to think wildly out of the box, and assume people should lose a sense of common thought when they discover they have inherent super-abilities. Personally, here is a list of things that could make this series coherent and viewable again.
1. Hire actual comic-writers as consultants for the scripts
2. Hire a capable producer
3. Insert some humor into the show, even Wolverine cracks a joke every now and then
4. Trim out the character list
5. Nerf Peter and Sylar/Gabriel, this may already being done
6. Kill Hiro. Don't get me wrong I loved Hiro, but his power makes the story incomprehensible.
7. Kill Mohinder, does anyone like that guy?

Hopefully, somebody fixes this show, because the first season had so much potential. 
If I was in charge of 'Heroes'
I've never understood how people can't follow the story because of Hiro's time travelling...it's hardly confusingIf I was in charge of 'Heroes'
its just a xmen rip-off no need to get worked up over it
Peter's already been nerfed, Sylar's been to a degree (they wiped his slate of powers clean except for his telekinesis at the start of season, so he's only got a few powers now) and by the looks of the last episode, taken away Hiro's power as well. So some of those are already going in motion.  The fact that they've dumped two of their producers/writers (and apparently those two were the ones who were responsible for the show's current ''move, don't think'' mentality, and changed a lot of what Tim Kring planned for the season) and Bryan Fuller, who was a major writer for season 1 (and wrote many of the best episodes, like ''Company Man'') is planning on returning to the series if his current show is cancelled in January, which is very liekly, I'd say things are looking like they ought to improve on the show soon.
1. Hire actual comic-writers as consultants for the scriptsIt's not a comedy. I like the level of humor in it right now. 2. Hire a capable producerThe Producer is fine.3. Insert some humor into the show, even Wolverine cracks a joke every now and thenThere is humor in the show.4. Trim out the character listAgreed, but only a few.5. Nerf Peter and Sylar/Gabriel, this may already being doneThis isn't necessary, and the way they are doing it now by making an even more powerful bad guy.. is really lame. 6. Kill Hiro. Don't get me wrong I loved Hiro, but his power makes the story incomprehensible.Hrio is the show. Without his ability nothing would make sense. 7. Kill Mohinder, does anyone like that guy?Mohinder is the Narator since season 1. He was one of my favorite characters untill recently.In conclusion... The only thing that needs to be fixed about Heros is the execessive characters that play small rolls. And to keep the story line some what respectable. Destroying Characters we've come to love like Mohinder, and Peter is where the show is getting of track. 
[QUOTE=''omipatrick'']

The first season of 'Heroes' was a masterpiece of storytelling and character development. Then came the subsequent seasons, which have lost all grasp of 'common' sense. Lots of the story involved in these seasons require viewers to think wildly out of the box, and assume people should lose a sense of common thought when they discover they have inherent super-abilities. Personally, here is a list of things that could make this series coherent and viewable again.
1. Hire actual comic-writers as consultants for the scripts
2. Hire a capable producer
3. Insert some humor into the show, even Wolverine cracks a joke every now and then
4. Trim out the character list
5. Nerf Peter and Sylar/Gabriel, this may already being done
6. Kill Hiro. Don't get me wrong I loved Hiro, but his power makes the story incomprehensible.
7. Kill Mohinder, does anyone like that guy?

Hopefully, somebody fixes this show, because the first season had so much potential. 
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You know that Jeph Loeb who was just let go is an actual comic writer, right? Of course, he writes stuff like Ultimates 3 and brought us the ''glory'' of Onslaught back in the 1990's *shudder*

[QUOTE=''freshgman'']its just a xmen rip-off no need to get worked up over it[/QUOTE] Please actually watch a Heroes episode before saying something as ridiculous as that. 
Actually, I'm happy with Heroes as is
I really like heroe, but from what I've been seeing lately, I have to tell you, I ain't impressed. How does this one guy (Mr.Petrelli) do so much, while all the heroes are losing their power. I hope they do something soon b/c I'm honestly getting frustrated with all the time traveling and alternate universes. How are we even sure what were watching is what's truly happening?
If I was in charge of the station that funds Heroes I would stop funding it.The first series was pretty decent, the second appalling and the third even worse. The story line is not confusing, but rather dull, tried and tested. The characters are boring and 2 dimensional, always getting into the same boring situations, some of the acting, particularly from Claire is laughable, and there is no sense of suspense. While series 2 had no pacing until the last episode, where basically the whole series plot actually happened, series 3 has almost too much happening, so suspense is lost through the near immediate resolution to all the situations characters film themselves in.But hey, I don't fund Heroes... 
I'm just glad that NBC realized that Heroes was getting out of control, and made the decision to get rid of Loeb and Alexander before things got so far gone they were unfixable.  At least, I should say I hope the series can still be saved.  I loved Season One, and I even enjoyed Season Two, but so far, Season Three is just... meh. 
[QUOTE=''DrSponge'']I've never understood how people can't follow the story because of Hiro's time travelling...it's hardly confusing[/QUOTE]

Agreed. There's nothing really confusing about it.
[QUOTE=''Bloodbath_87''][QUOTE=''DrSponge'']I've never understood how people can't follow the story because of Hiro's time travelling...it's hardly confusing[/QUOTE] Agreed. There's nothing really confusing about it.[/QUOTE]
I'm not saying the story is hard to follow, it just doesn't make sense, the characters on random occasions do something completely out of character to do something that 'fits' with the show. For, instance why does Mohinder all of sudden want powers? None of the character's follow any sort of development path that is comprehensible, other than Sylar/Gabriel.

[QUOTE=''omipatrick''][QUOTE=''Bloodbath_87''][QUOTE=''DrSponge'']I've never understood how people can't follow the story because of Hiro's time travelling...it's hardly confusing[/QUOTE] Agreed. There's nothing really confusing about it.[/QUOTE]
I'm not saying the story is hard to follow, it just doesn't make sense, the characters on random occasions do something completely out of character to do something that 'fits' with the show. For, instance why does Mohinder all of sudden want powers? None of the character's follow any sort of development path that is comprehensible, other than Sylar/Gabriel.
[/QUOTE]I don't think Mohinder ever wanted powers until after he actually got them. He stuck himself with the super-needle in order to test his theory, not gain the powers (because at the time, he had no idea what the hell would happen).
[QUOTE=''EMOEVOLUTION'']1. Hire actual comic-writers as consultants for the scriptsIt's not a comedy. I like the level of humor in it right now. 2. Hire a capable producerThe Producer is fine.3. Insert some humor into the show, even Wolverine cracks a joke every now and thenThere is humor in the show.4. Trim out the character listAgreed, but only a few.5. Nerf Peter and Sylar/Gabriel, this may already being doneThis isn't necessary, and the way they are doing it now by making an even more powerful bad guy.. is really lame. 6. Kill Hiro. Don't get me wrong I loved Hiro, but his power makes the story incomprehensible.Hrio is the show. Without his ability nothing would make sense. 7. Kill Mohinder, does anyone like that guy?Mohinder is the Narator since season 1. He was one of my favorite characters untill recently.In conclusion... The only thing that needs to be fixed about Heros is the execessive characters that play small rolls. And to keep the story line some what respectable. Destroying Characters we've come to love like Mohinder, and Peter is where the show is getting of track. [/QUOTE]
1. What does a comic-writer have to do with humor in the show? The show needs one to held create a story that can have a standalone episode while maintaining a larger story and also help balance characters without overpowering them; i.e. Peter, Hiro, Sylar/Gabriel.
2. The producer is fine? They just got fired.
3. Humor? When was the last time did anybody besides Hiro's absurd storyline and Parkman's storyline make you laugh?
4. Glad we agree on something
5. The characters are overpowered. Personally I'd make Peter only capable of 'storing' limited amount of powers and if he uses other they just be near him. Sylar would actually have a harmful physical aliment as he took more powers.
6. Hiro use to be the show, before he started time-traveling adventure
7. Seriously?
 
[QUOTE=''Theokhoth''][QUOTE=''omipatrick''][QUOTE=''Bloodbath_87''] Agreed. There's nothing really confusing about it.[/QUOTE]
I'm not saying the story is hard to follow, it just doesn't make sense, the characters on random occasions do something completely out of character to do something that 'fits' with the show. For, instance why does Mohinder all of sudden want powers? None of the character's follow any sort of development path that is comprehensible, other than Sylar/Gabriel.
[/QUOTE]I don't think Mohinder ever wanted powers until after he actually got them. He stuck himself with the super-needle in order to test his theory, not gain the powers (because at the time, he had no idea what the hell would happen). [/QUOTE]
He actually wanted powers, and had no clue as to the actual nature of his 'serum'. Which makes no sense why a scientist would do that without more viable proof
[QUOTE=''omipatrick''][QUOTE=''Theokhoth''][QUOTE=''omipatrick'']
I'm not saying the story is hard to follow, it just doesn't make sense, the characters on random occasions do something completely out of character to do something that 'fits' with the show. For, instance why does Mohinder all of sudden want powers? None of the character's follow any sort of development path that is comprehensible, other than Sylar/Gabriel.
[/QUOTE]I don't think Mohinder ever wanted powers until after he actually got them. He stuck himself with the super-needle in order to test his theory, not gain the powers (because at the time, he had no idea what the hell would happen). [/QUOTE]
He actually wanted powers, and had no clue as to the actual nature of his 'serum'. Which makes no sense why a scientist would do that without more viable proof[/QUOTE]He needed to do that in order to actually get the viable proof. Nobody else was raising their hand.
[QUOTE=''Samwel_X''] If I was in charge of the station that funds Heroes I would stop funding it.The first series was pretty decent, the second appalling and the third even worse. The story line is not confusing, but rather dull, tried and tested. The characters are boring and 2 dimensional, always getting into the same boring situations, some of the acting, particularly from Claire is laughable, and there is no sense of suspense. While series 2 had no pacing until the last episode, where basically the whole series plot actually happened, series 3 has almost too much happening, so suspense is lost through the near immediate resolution to all the situations characters film themselves in.But hey, I don't fund Heroes... [/QUOTE]^This. Heroes is the most dull show on TV. It's not that there isn't humor in the dialogue, there is just no humor in the show. It takes itself waaaaaay too seriously. IMO of course...
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